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Venus in the 8th house/Venus in Scorpio

“That amazing moment when you find out the truth”

Note: though this post describes the development of a Venus in the 8th house it greatly applies to people with charts that involve many/planets in the 8th and aspects to Pluto between the Sun and Venus

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How does Venus  translate in its opposite house of Scorpio?  Venus as you know, is ruled by Taurus- a strong sensual sign in some ways reminiscent of its opposite Scorpio. After all, both signs know what they want and value and they will do a lot to make sure they have it.  Venus is usually described as the planet of love and beauty, but in truth it is more the planet of values. It so happens that we value is: beauty, luxury and love. But where Venus is placed and how it is aspected will greatly differ in terms of what it is really about.  I would suggest that Venus is more about the sensual material things in life: from trips abroad to fashion, it is very much involved. In the 8th, these material things need to transform into the  spiritual.

The 8th house is a complicated house. I once described it as a dark cave or hole- and I stand by that. And as you know a dark cave or hole is dark only in contrast to all the light outside. If so, any planet in some hidden manner shines through in this house! It’s a complicated ordeal don’t get me wrong- but it’s not a negative one.  Then again it sure can be- as Venus is so sensual that it can be put to the test in a house that deals with other people’s money and sex. That said, let me describe this placement to the best of my ability.

Venus in the 8th development: 

Venus in the 8th house has a love problem- their lesson in life is to learn a full all-consuming spiritual love that lets go of power. These are people with a very rich emotional life- no matter if its good or bad they tend to value this intensity that makes them feel alive. This life is usually well hidden or obscured by all sorts of things so other people rarely know the extent of feeling that is there. A Venus in the 8th house was born with love emanating from them in waves- somewhat erotic or misunderstood most likely by them and their families. The type of reactions this Scorpio/8th house Venus arouses from people as children even is a bit freighting. People around them feel confronted with their own hidden needs and so they try to control or become controlled by the young 8th house Venus. The result is that extreme boundaries and issues of power and control are a major theme in any 8th house love life- on that a little  later.

How that plays out differs- a Leo 8th house Venus may be that kid that plays in theater or even dances while the Virgo Venus may become so strict with controlling themselves and their “wrong” emotions and urges  to the point of repression.  The key here is, that almost always their loving nature is not understood by others so much. Like Plutonian people they too can be labeled as dangerous, strange and wrong by parents and teachers or society. Why? They don’t know their own love nature and so they accept what other people tell them- that they are a little too intense and a little wild or maybe even crazy.

As teenagers, they naturally become most aware and awakened to their potential for emotional understanding- as they usually have a high intelligence in this regard, they know that things are complicated early on, and during this stage of life they become somewhat preoccupied with this range of emotions that can be labeled as “dark”.  It is common for them to be interested in anything the subculture had to offer as long as it is also somewhat beautiful in a broken or poetic kind of way. They want to learn and feel everything and therefore, keep finding themselves in situations that are a little extreme or overwhelming. They form relationships that offer them the experience of deep emotional intimacy.  The thing is that teenagers though prone to dramatic behaviors and mood swings, don’t always have the capacity for a relationship not based on superficial things that is so fully needed by the Venus in the 8th house. At first, they may try very hard to fit into those superficial roles- they do know how to style themselves in that way that makes them popular. After all they are so into the rebel counter culture. If they manage to find their place in that way that is great but chances are they will find most relationships lack the meaning and loyalty they so value.  It is during their teenage years they begin to reconsider all they learned as children about their ability to give and receive love.  By their love of rebel culture, they allow themselves not to control the intense urges for intimacy. You see- it is all just a tool for that end and most likely they don’t agree with the values of the counter- culture.  They simply use the fashion, music and rhetoric of a darker nature to allow some healthy self-expression.

The way this plays out greatly differs- some 8th house Venus teens allow the feelings to rise through art, books or even sports. They may hide in their room for hours writing suicidal poetry and listening to Gothic music. Others take a more risky road that involves going out into the world without protection- as protecting their heart is not going to allow them to delve deep into the human love they yearn to experience. Whether in fantasy or reality, most 8th house Venus has stormy teenage years that involved some major transformation as a result of a relationship or even a tragedy.

The mature 8th house Venus is a person that finally cultivated their attraction to the fatal with a high level of ability to give and receive erotic energy. The best way to illustrate this is by the stages described above. The first stage involved a denial of one’s ability to love and be loved in the way that as needed. Even if they were very loved by people- just not in  a way that felt good.  They may have learned that when they love another- be it a parent, brother or friends- it is wrong. They learned that they take too much- ask for too much and give something that others understand as erotic instead of pure. By erotic I mean it aroused some dark emotional currents in their loved ones and as a result they were deeply rejected or used- all this happens on some very invisible level and chances are it happens in the Venus 8th house person’s soul- which makes it a very real experience for them. This description is also true in some way about other planets in the 8th house and major aspects to Pluto (I wish to write a post just about that one day).

In addition to having some complicated emotional needs and a lot of lessons about being loved and loving others. Venus in the 8th house is greatly related with dealing with other people’s money and possessions. These people may not arouse other people to be nice to them but it arouses them to trust them with what they own. Interesting right? In part I believe that the great emotional needs they had translated into material and sensual needs- more easily answered!  Even if they grew up very poor they still knew how to find something or receive what they wanted from others- as long as it was material. The same intense and (sorry but it’s the best word) erotic energy they had allowed them to attract luxury into their lives. Luxury could mean just having a little more than those around them – so it always depends on that. I think that learning to use the same charm for unselfish means is the real lesson here.

They are very good with making something out of nothing and can really make money grow.  They are generally very good at attracting the luxury of this world as long as they don’t own it. For example, it’s not uncommon for them to work in charity organizations where they end up collecting the highest donations. Anything they touch with their senses becomes suddenly more valuable. This at times can be true of people – they can elevate someone’s status by being with them! In all cases they are a little behind the scenes and the success largely depends on how much of their emotions they invest.

This brings us to the topic of relationships and marriage. Here the genders should be separated. The women with the 8th house Venus need and want someone who can offer them a cocktail of intoxicating romance which at times is toxic.  What this drug looks like depends on the sign but in all cases a need for a special kind of intimacy is present.  They want someone who is strong enough to accept their love without fear- and be consumed by it. Someone they can trust not to use that against them in anyway. They learned that love is all or nothing- because when younger their love was either rejected and feared or accepted and abused. The best partner for them is someone who can appreciate what they offer while still being strong enough to not let all the passion and desire become too much- In other words someone who is capable of a soul bond but also of setting boundaries. Can you imagine someone like that? Strong enough to let go and keep it together at the same time, now that is magic.

Women here need to be very careful that they marry for the right reasons- as they may give up on the above ideal and settle for someone who is only socially powerful. They may confuse money and power with spiritual strength. As they naturally have that something about them that attracts powerful (controlling) people who just happen to be rich. I’m sorry to say but the low current of such placement tends to marry for money. Unlike the 10th house Venus it is not a real need- they don’t need the luxury they just need to feel protected enough to bond with another person.

Man with this Venus need a partner that is a little complex- someone who is mysterious. They too should be careful they marry or commit for the right reasons- they need to learn to be connected to their hearts desire even if it is hard to understand.

In conclusion, the Venus in the 8th house is that person who will transform themselves many times. They go through stages when all they can do is take from others- and moments of pure despair when one they give isn’t appreciated. They love with passion that is powerful, soulful, poetic and sensitive to the hidden aspects of life.

They can teach others to really enjoy being in love even if it doesn’t feel good. Their love is going to have an element of pain in it- always, but also healing for all the people who were not loved and accepted- and most of all they learn to love themselves with all their faults. As they are truly beautiful in their way of loving even the broken things that can e made whole again. They see the broken parts in other people but they paint them with a fire os passion and rebirth…So they transform the person they love and themselves forever.

The Complex art of Compatibility Charts

Today I am going to walk you through the first steps in reading a compatibility chart. Probably one of the most sought after readings in Astrology, because at the end of the day we all want the same thing- love, intimacy, friendship.

What they don’t tell you is how complicated such a reading can be. The amount of information and possibilities seen is no joke. The same aspects and sign placements can mean many different things. Nevertheless, some rules do apply and you can find out a great deal from such a chart about your relationship with the other person. Personally, I know more about Birth charts and Solar returns then this type of practice. Yet even I am not immune to its charms and practical use. Here too the Birth Chart is central if you want to figure things out, there are two main methods you can try:

 A. Look at the chart as if it’s the Birth chart of your relationship to each other. Just reading it according to the usual method.

B. Say you  are dating someone new and you want to know if this is a good relationship or not. What you need to do is study your chart and then his/her chart separately and then combine what you learn and compare it to the Compatibility Chart.

As you can guess I prefer the second method, it’s just more correct in my opinion. You don’t need to be a pro to do this- all you need is basic natal knowledge and the tools to apply it.

To help you here are some questions that can guide the process. First, find out what the relationship is like in style. For some background let’s say we have Jake and Mary and they are dating for a short period of time. They don’t know much about each other, but they both really want this to work.  Jake is an Aries with a Virgo Moon and Mary is a Capricorn with a Pisces Moon.  You look at the Chart and you see the Sun falls into Leo in 10th house and the Moon is in Virgo in the 6th. Though the rest of the chart should be considered in terms of style you already know that it’s more of a “work” relationship than a “romantic” one. This doesn’t mean they can’t fall in love and marry – not at all! It just means that the relationship is going to be more about working together and making goals and a daily routine then about fun adventures.

It is also very important to compare the signs to the Birth charts of the couple.  We know that Aries and Capricorn are worlds apart, but here we have opposite Moon’s In Virgo and Pisces. So Jake and Mary may feel that the other one has qualities that they wish they had. Jake may wish he could let go of analyzing his emotions and just feel and Mary may wish she could be less sensitive to criticism. The combined chart (as I call it) has a Moon in Virgo in the 6th house. Because Jake is a Virgo moon then a power struggle to have the relationship as he wants it to be may become a problem. You see- he may fall in love with Mary and feel amazing with her, but she may find it a bit harder to feel good. Unless they “work” on their emotions and home together or build a project that would enhance their careers. Emotionally this is not an easy partnership.

But let’s not give up and keep looking some more. Sun in Leo is somewhat fun and gives both of them time to breath- as long as they take pride in who they are by doing work. Next Venus and Mars are very important. Jake has his Venus in Taurus making him sensual and giving in love, but most importantly it makes him want women that are stable, practical, and classy- Just like Mary! Who is such a Capricorn that she does have some of these qualities: she is classy and practical, and Jake would like that about her. Jakes Mars is in Cancer which gets along amazingly with the opposite Capricorn in a sexual relationship.  So things are not as bad as a first glance would make you think. They might date and not get along at first but eventually over time they will enjoy each other.  What about Mary?  She had her Mars in Leo; she likes a partner who is confident, creative, energetic and maybe a little bossy. But most importantly she likes him to be open and have a big heart. Jake is an Aries and he is very much that- open, honest and proud. His very analytical nature would be forgiven as it helps Mary overcome her fears and deal with her dreams, turning them into reality. As a Capricorn she would like that very much. They both can have a nice business together maybe at home (Moon in the 10th house) and if they work as a team then this can be a very loving partnership.

This is just a very little example- but as you can see so many things need to be taken into account when trying to understand a relationship.

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Here is a check list that would help you:

Is the chart more about feelings? Planets in the 4th, 8th and 12th house. or Is it more about ideals? the 9th house or perhaps all about fun? look for planets In the 5th house.

Is it a harmonious relationship? Lots of Trines and sextiles, or a challenging one? Many squares and opposing planets.

Is Saturn well aspected? If yes it will be a long lasting relationship.  

Uranus may show you if a breaking up is a danger.  

Is it a soul-mate relationship- planets in the 7th house,8th and sometimes 12th. 

Does any of the partners have anger issues (Mars) or substance abuse (Neptune)?

I hope this helps, please remember that even a difficult chart can with some extra work signify a great relationship. It’s all about learning the weak and strong points for a better version of the chart.

Wish you love.

Lee

Love your Venus: part 1

Note: If you have more than two planets in a sign or house then perhaps reading the Venus for that would be more accurate as well as the actual placement.

Venus is so important in your chart, I really can’t stress this enough. What is Venus in your chart?  You probably think about Venus as being the planet of love, beauty and money- and you are right. But in human development Venus is a little more than that. When you are born you are born as your Sun sign- you ego, your father and your true self. Your Moon is your home and mother, your nurturing and your emotional learning in childhood. Mercury is our skill set in later years- when you learn to speak and make connections with others that are called friendships.   All this is your base- what made you who you are very early in life. Venus is the love you are able to give and receive based on all the other experiences and connections you have had- because Venus rules your values  and they developed as a result of the nurturing from parents ,friends ,brothers sisters and the community and country at large. There are only 12 signs for your Venus to reside, so what makes your Venus your own is so much more:  The house and the aspects and the whole chart have to be taken into consideration. Nevertheless, here is a simple but true break down of Venus placements according to what makes you feel good and what can help you when you don’t feel love.

Venus in Aries:  Love needs to be open, based on honesty and without heavy restrictions. Your learned to give others affection and physical connection without limits. You are very warm and giving without thought and because of that you expect others to give the same in return. They may have called you selfish for wanting to get your own way, never realizing you are more than happy to return affection in return. Like a child you play with fire and you get burned, so you must learn that not everyone is worthy of you. You grow up and develop pride that hides behind it the hurt and burns of your past. To heal you must let go and open tis flood of passion to the world- your will suffer less being able to be yourself.

Venus in Taurus: Your love needs to be real, something that cannot be taken away from you. Empty promises force you to turn cold to others. You are fully capable of loving yourself as you are in the flesh- misgivings, shortcomings and sensual cravings. You can offer the same gift to others- not unconditional love but accepting love. You learned that your touch is healing magic, that friends run to you for sweet comfort and that the simple things in life can save a heart from breaking. You give your body and only then your soul and when you don you don’t know how to take it back. If you are forced to take your broken heart from another- you will feel empty and in return would try to fill up the space with sensual comfort. But yours is a loving nature and living without expressing it isn’t worth it at all for you true values are based on love.

Venus in Gemini: Your love is learned through mirroring others, if they were good mirrors in childhood then you would be the easy- going of them all, and if not then you will choose to go it alone.  In fact, you are easy going either way- just not happy. Your true need is that of a partner in crime, always someone to be there for you. That someone can be of any age, race or gender but they must treat you with acceptance.  Through them you will learn your gifts of fun and self-expression, until you are older. When you are older this need would turn into a passion and secret quest: to find your soulmate. At heart you are a romantic, and your soulmate is always right around the corner. To be happy you should not make promises you can’t keep. Don’t love those who ask that of you for that would be your defeat. Instead, live day by day, inventing your soulmate in your dreams and finding pieces of this ideal friend in your reality.

Venus in Cancer: Your love is endless; you have the true ability to lose yourself in the emotion of love. You only knew this type of love towards either in childhood or before you were born and either way it’s not a very secure knowing. Therefore, you feel secure in your emotions only when you give them to others- you can trust yourself but not others. Learning to receive caring and nurture from others is your early task. You may shy away from it in many ways, in private you wonder why love like yours cannot be found.  It can be of course. but only if you learn that you are strong. Stronger than others for you love is endless and can survive anything. In early adulthood you masked your emotions in order to get by perhaps by staying a child and not growing up, perhaps by growing up too fast. Your fear is all that is stopping you and once you let go- your ability to give and receive love is beyond compare.

Venus in Leo: Love is for those who are worth it, is what you have learned. One must win love before they have any entitlement for it. And so you made sure as a child that you are worth it, that you are the best- and only then were you allowed to enjoy others affection. For you love is always conditional and dangerous. Being loved unconditionally by someone who doesn’t recognize your worth, is the outmost of failures- you rather have no love at all. And so you develop your own fantasy:  where someone wins your heart. They must slay the dragon and kill the witch, and of course you are the prize.  When this does not happen, you are secretly sure this is your fault- that you are not good enough. If you only open your eyes you will see how everyone in your path is more than ready to slay the dragon- they just think they are not good enough for you.  Love is drama and song for you. Your greatest gift is turning the grayest of stories into a fairytale- by making anyone feel like they are the best.

Venus in Virgo: You don’t need much, just a little of that one very particular something, right? When you were young affection wasn’t given easily. Not that you weren’t loved but circumstances may have required various rules and limits on that affection. As you grew up you developed you system of right and wrong times to express love- probably as a reaction to you upbringing and sometimes in an opposite direction. If affection was cold, you may have no boundaries at all and if you were smothered then you set strict lines in your relationships.  As a result you allow yourself to express love through service or in a situation that has its own rules of the game: working relations, marriage and yes even affairs that have their own rules, don’t they?  For you to find true love and be happy you must respect your partner and the values they hold and you must know they need you.  You may fall into the trap of analyzing until all emotion is gone- for you must know it is the right time for you to open your heart and how will you know this if not through the mind?  But nevertheless you will keep to the rules, loyally giving more and more- even if no respect or love is received.  For you to be happy you must make your number one rule that of receiving it in return.

Venus in Libra: Love is about harmony. For you it is the space where balance is reached and conclusions stay in place. You are always in two places at once, trying to decide what road to choose next. Your heart loves everyone without reserve and yet you realize early on that this state of affairs isn’t ok with other people.  They ask you to choose; maybe it was your family maybe just life. You had to make a choice you could not make and so you never did.  You grew up, and made the easy choice- love what is beautiful for beautiful is always good. Beauty was the answer for the unbalance between mind, body and heart. Your hate of conflict meant you would seek where you belong- that group that would not require you to make difficult choices and that would be easily affectionate towards you.  As you grow up, this isn’t going to be enough. You will seek partners that challenge you, forcing you to develop a strong sense of individual identity. When that happens, you will find a partner in the true sense of the word. Someone who is amazing, who will join you according to your beliefs and goals in life, maybe an intellectual kind of love? For the best analogy for you kind is that ancient Greek idea where from physical love you learn to know the spiritual kind.

Venus in Scorpio: Your love isn’t open for all to see, only for the privileged.  When very young you were much protected, some sad truth was concealed from you. You learned that nothing is as it seems- including love. Being the way you are you promised yourself to protect others from the frightening emotions that you have, emotions born from the disclosure of the difficult truth, that same one that was concealed from you by your caregivers. Love in your heart wasn’t something you could express and so you let it grow within, becoming deeper and deeper- more complicated as the years went by.

By the time you grew up all you knew was that it wasn’t simple for you to become involved with people.  Nevertheless you wanted to protect and fight for them, your early romantic involvement may have been with someone weaker or in need of your help. That someone may not have been able to let you have your own weak spots and so it ended. You perceived this as betrayal and closed off your brave heart. You came into your power, not much later and learned that sex is your tool for expressing the depth, the void the need. And yet you wanted something pure and true, something that is based on deep trust that needs not words. Secret affaires are just a mockery of that, but it takes time to figure out.  I you do figure it out- yours if the kind of love where one is ready to die for the other.

Descendant in Pisces: Love and Relationships

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Did I say eyes? Amanda has a Pisces rising

Your 7th house is all about your relationships with others. Ruled by Libra and Venus it is a good place to study when questions of love arise. If you have this placement then this means you have a Virgo ascendant. The sign here will show your other half, and the type of people you attract or want in your life. Or the people who want you- and you can’t help but wonder why?

A Pisces Descendant is not an easy place to be. These are people that appear very earthy, analytical, and precise- on the surface. Pisces is the opposite of Virgo as it embodies: transcendence and emotions -it’s anything but precise. The Pisces cannot be pinned down, it’s wishy washy and likes to run away into some other world. Like the hippies of the 60’sthe Pisces idea of love is all beautiful- but it doesn’t always deliver in the material world.

So now you can maybe understand what kind of difficulty such a placement can have. The Virgo rising person attracts people that are full of beautiful ideas and promises- that can prove to be completely untrue! The Virgo rising is fascinated with these people who can bring so much emotion into their life. But they must be careful to always seek the truth and not believe everything that is being promised.

Why are the Pisces types running towards the Virgo risings? As the old saying goes: “opposites attract”, and so the Pisces thinks that the Virgo is wonderful finally! Someone sensitive enough to listen to all the problems, wash the dishes, pay the bills. This is the relationship where one person is pursuing a dream to become an author for years- while the other person is the one taking care of all the real life stuff for them.

The good news is that the partner you are very likely to have is going to have amazing eyes. Not kidding, Pisces eyes are the ones with long lashes sparkles in them, blue or just dreamy and pretty.  You will find love with a very idealistic person, an artist, and musician. Your partner is going to be a person who will be very sweet and gentle towards you, who will look at you as if you a god or goddess. They will idealize you and think you are the best.

To know where and how you shall find this spiritual being, just look at the placement of your Neptune and Jupiter. The houses and signs they are in, can give you a clue of who this person might be.  All you have to do is make sure to have clear boundaries in the relationship.

Pleas watch out for these things:

Any drug or alcohol use-always avoid being the one to heal or fix the person. This will only result in pain for you. Not that you cannot help- but you will ruin yourself in the process.

Empty promises that never actually come true- watch the actions forget the words

Don’t have lovers take money or anything you hold dear for the sake of “helping them”

Make sure that they don’t have a criminal record (really)

Enjoy these things:

Helping them a little bit with making their dreams come true

Learning to have you emotions take hold in everyday life

Remembering you dreams and ideals- and making them a reality

The beautiful creativity and spirituality of your lover s and friends

Hope this post has been helpful, if you have any questions you are welcome to ask me.

I apologize for the long delay in posts. I was going through some difficult changes and transits 🙂

Finding Love and Astrology

Today’s post is going to be a little different and even a bit more personal perhaps. Love is something we all need and want and today I want to talk about that. When we think of love,we think about that person that can complete us and love us as we love them. Everyones definition of love is different but we all agree its a positive thing. I agree love is the most beautiful experience we humans can have. But  I also think love can be confused with passion,need,fear,attraction,you see the dangers here? from an astrological point of view this is even more evident. We all have deep emotional needs and just by looking at your moon placement this needs can be revealed to you. But is the person that is going to fulfill this need be the right one for you? not necessarily. You can fall in love and have a great connection with someone but that doesn’t promise a lasting and healthy relationship for you both. So when looking at your birth chart look at it as a whole not just the Moon,Venus or Mars. When a friend asked me once to tell her if she had a future with a boyfriend I realized how important it is to see the whole picture. she is a beautiful cancer sun with Libra moon and rising and her loved one a Scorpio sun. That was all the information I had about him. So I decided to rely on her chart alone and talk to her about her needs and patterns in relationships. In other words,love calls for self understanding more then compatibility with any zodiac sign. If you know who you are then you can build a relationship that lasts and makes you happy. Instead of looking for someone to complete you,be complete on your own. Love should be two people adding more to each others whole and growing better and stronger together. What about passion you ask? attractions is like a primitive compass towards a person that could be good for you. A woman with Mars in Aries would like man that acts like and Aries. It doesn’t mean she need to date one! Instead she can know what she likes and search for that in a partner. Don’t get me wrong,If you know your partners birth chart then that is useful. You should get to know and understand him or her the same way. Don’t search if you are compatible! Instead search to understand him or her in the best way you can.

Here is an overview of what each planet can tell you about love in your life:

Sun: Where you need to take center stage in a relationship,where you feel at ease at the beginning of a relationship.

Moon: The kind of connection you seek and how you react to love,anger,fear in relationships.

Mercury: How do you communicate In love and friendships? what kind of conversation you enjoy and need? Do you need marriage or friendship and a non traditional relationship?

Venus: How do you express love? do you touch,kiss,talk or stay silent with a dreamy look in your eyes?

what kind of environment or values you need to have love? (The perfect woman)

Mars: How to you handle you active life?  How you show anger and how strong your sex drive? (the perfect man)

Saturn: Your hardships and your triumphs,the long lasting partnerships.

Jupiter: Where you are lucky in love and what spiritual values you hold.

Rising sign:  How you look to potential lovers and how you express yourself when you hide who you are.

Tell me  what is love in your opinion?

Do you think astrology should be used to find love? or do you agree its only  a tool for self knowing?

Have a beautiful day