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Venus in Capricorn: Vintage Heart

I’ve written a brief post about Venus in Capricorn before, but never a serious one (although Venus in Capricorn folks have taken it all with much somber seriousness). So here is the thing: There is a very high chance that if your Venus is in Capricorn, it is conjunct Uranus and Neptune. Hence it has a unique expression to anything you will read online. However, even if your Venus is adjusted by the expression of outer planets and other interesting factors- it is still ruled by Saturn.
This means your Venus is like a wine that gets finer with age. It is also a Venus that seeks mastery in various forms and this also applies to personal relationships. Your Venus wants to learn what structures, values and principles can best support achieving harmonious relationships and the pleasures of life. For you see, this is an indulgent position (followed only by Venus in Leo and Taurus)! Venus in Capricorn has a natural inclination towards structure (Saturn) and luxury (Venus). They, therefore, value anything that is well made and prefer quality over quantity. They can enjoy anything vintage because Saturn rules the past and tradition. In the past, things were made with great attention to durability, functionality, and quality. The preference for practicality and quality would be evident in the choices you make. Curiously, many Venus in Capricorn natives are skilled collectors of bags, shoes, vintage jewelry, historical artifacts and even furniture. At the same time, others may have a good feel for buying property that can become valuable over time. Home design and architecture are also popular careers for this Venus because they require long-term effort with material evidence to support the hard work. There is a general preference of this Venus to want to master something and achieve durability. This preference tends to color how Venus in Capricorn views their career, personal relationships and even their body. For example, some Venus in Capricorn natives turn their own body into the prime project of effort with varying in results. They can work out at the gym or go to various extremes to strengthen and perfect their physical abilities. Things go bad when this Venus is not oriented on self-mastery but instead seeks the approval of society. In fact, the biggest issue with Venus in Capricorn is attempting to gain social approval and status through their hard work or appearance. Saturn likes social status and authority and the natives naturally gravitate towards achieving power via their hard work. This makes them very dedicated to master skills and to better themselves but it can come at a price. It is important they know they are valuable regardless of social approval. A healthy Capricorn Venus develops skills and a distinct personal style that is above other people’s approval. They just want to be good at what they do so they can respect themselves and sleep at night. They want to live life as their own boss and without anyone telling them what to do. They can motivate themselves to work hard without a boss standing over their shoulder. In contrast, an unhealthy Venus in Capricorn can work itself into complete exhaustion and be troubled by constant performance anxiety. They will always seek the approval of authority figures to tell them they are worthy and beautiful. The most important thing is for them to develop independent values that shape their choices so that they are less likely to allow other people to define their worth. Success is something they want and are skilled at achieving and they need to trust they have what it takes to live life on their own terms. For you see: they are actually very stoic, independent and individualistic. Saturn is a mature planet and it can be very liberating. Yes! I said Saturn and liberating in the same sentence…But there is freedom in timelessness. The Venus in Capricorn can orient itself only on that which has been proven to be good and worthy over time…And develop a unique taste for life in the process. It won’t care as much what anyone else considers beautiful (unless it is insecure). Beauty would become that which is righteous and good! Morality becomes beautiful. A certain spirituality is indicated for this Venus because it values responsibility and action. This Venus would have a graceful disposition born from long-term cultivation of their own personality. They will polish their Self into the perfect timeless diamond until only the most beautiful parts remain. They need to respect themselves and to respect you.

“Above all, don’t lie to yourself. The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others. And having no respect he ceases to love.” 

― From Venus in Capricorn Fyodor Dostoevsky, 

In romantic relationships, Venus in Capricorn is all about long-term effort, durability, loyalty and investment. It tends to view people through the principle of value. When this principle is applied to relationships, the result is a person loyal to the people they find valuable or important regardless of whether the relationship seems fruitful or pleasurable. This can result in the Venus in Capricorn native staying in relationships that don’t serve them because they believe in the long and hard climb towards success. They can become too focused on a person’s future potential and invest too much time and effort into someone who is not good for them. They tend to find ambition very attractive but it can blind them from seeing the person is all talk and no action. That is if they are not too wounded by previous romantic relationships to the point of avoiding anyone who doesn’t meet a pre-set list of requirements. I personally think having a set of standards I good for this Venus- they should be clear about their expectations and not waste their time. So, what does Venus in Capricorn really enjoy and want? As with everything, they will gravitate towards a “quality” person. A person that has proven their skill or effort professionally is likely o be attractive. They are also very attracted to someone who can nurture them and help them relax after all their efforts. This is because of the principle of Cancer, the opposite sign to Capricorn. They want someone who is warm, can create a cozy atmosphere and nurture them. Nurture can come through, answering their physical needs or just offering general safety. A person who becomes their home is what they secretly crave. They are also very attracted to the idea of partnering with someone to build something lasting- be it a home, a family or a business. But it can time to win them over completely. Their stoic and independent nature can make them avoid jumping into anything that has not been proven yet but if the person is consistent and genuine, they will melt. You will see them enjoy the pleasures of a luxurious and enjoyable life that is the reward for all their efforts. They will love it if their partner seems very capable in some area. Better yet, if the person is not trying to show off and is just genuinely capable. Like all Earth Venus placements, there is a preference for authenticity over showmanship. Unless you are showing them off- they do enjoy your pride in them tremendously.
They don’t want something that glitters but something that lasts. That doesn’t mean they are not terribly romantic at heart because they do believe in creating something out of nothing and that requires a certain romantic streak- to believe that it is possible to build an empire out of thin air with the person you love is not for the faint of heart! They could have a fantasy of being kings or queens sitting at the throne with their loved one. They would find the image very attractive and something to strive for even if it requires great sacrifice. They want to build an empire and they want you to show them what skills you bring to the table to achieve this. Don’t try and impress them with words but with actions. Men with this placement would gravitate towards women who appear professional or have social status. for example, women who are natural-born socialites or even famous for an achievement. You often see them gravitate towards Leo or Libra women for this reason. Saturn also rules the bones so they tend to like thin and tall-looking women with sharp cheekbones. Women with this placement tend to embody the above-described archetype- they tend to be stylish, with a no-nonsense approach and a captivating air of authority. They can appear very formal or very laid back but usually have a good eye for expensive quality things or bargains. Some women become whatever society wants to see instead of developing the delicate personal style that this Venus is capable of.

The higher octave of Venus in Capricorn is all about giving structure to love so that it can flourish. The person would value self-improvement as a lifestyle and want to have relationships with people who can support that goal. These people are romantics at heart because they focus on improving their ability to love and be loved- they see it as a life project worthy of their ambition. They also tend to view love as something that is not about just them but part of social responsibility. For example, they can consider how their relationships relate to what their grandparents had to go through or how it will impact their future children. They can feel that whatever they achieve matters so much more when relating to their ancestors, family, or children. As a result, they are responsible and can put their playful and mischievous side to rest for the greater goal. In turn, this would allow them to choose a romantic partner through a prism based on personal responsibility. Don’t let them fool you- they take you seriously so don’t break their vintage heart.

Hard Venus-Saturn natal aspects: Love unbound

If you have the square, conjunction and opposition of Venus and Saturn in your natal chart this article is for you.

These aspects differ in flavor and outcome but have a common theme that is important to acknowledge. What actually happens is that if you have these aspects you are a person that is very affectionate and caring about other people and you take your relationships VERY seriously. The problem is that for whatever reason usually stemming from how you grew up and your early social experiences related to what you value and your self-esteem you tend to kind of have misplaced affection.

You tend to withdraw from the other person you love just when the relationship starts to open up and actually offer you intimacy and connection. When the relationship becomes intimate you experience a sense of fear that this relationship needs to follow the RULES or you can’t follow your heart.

You really desire solid, good, reliable and loyal relationships. You care a lot and have a strong sense of what is right and wrong in society. You have very good ethics and ideas about how relationships should be like to be considered “good”, anything that is below that standard you won’t commit to.

You can have many relationships in your life that don’t fit the rules but you will never marry or commit fully unless they fit your idea of what is “right”. The sad truth is it is really a way of thinking is something you cling to because it is masking and hiding your own sense of VULNERABILITY.

These ideas you hold about relationships having to follow steps, stages, rules, morals is really a mechanism you developed over time to protect yourself.

You just don’t like fully marching into something that in fact really be good for you. You learned as a child and as a teen from several probably shaking experiences that connection to other people is at times scarring. You wanted to connect but it was blocked or someone to said you had to be a certain way to receive it.

Maybe you had to act like a responsible adult or maybe you just had to follow the rules someone else made to deserve the love you wanted. The giving from other people was blocked and so you learned love and care is conditional. You started to believe only if you followed a certain path you would deserve love. As an adult you now believe you need to hold a high standard for yourself and other people. The exact reason or way this showed in your life would depend on the signs and houses of Saturn and Venus.

Generally speaking, you have this sense of “I’m not good enough”. You may believe that only when or if you reach some goal you can start having the relationship you dream of.

“I’m not good enough until I…Have a career”

“I’m not good enough until I…Look better”

“I’m not good enough until I…Prove my talents”

There is always a reason why you or the other person is not good enough to fully open up your heart. The tricky thing with this aspect is that often you can become just us blocking towards others who want to get closer to you. Secretly you are deeply hurt or angry about how you were treated. Often times, you have a great relationship with someone especially if other indicator in your natal chart point to that until that person wants to fully hug you, love you and care for you and suddenly you recoil because the hurt part of you wakes up. That fear makes you start thinking how that person might actually not be trustworthy or “up to the standard”. This is your mind trying to protect you from what it remembered caused it pain.

I am not saying you shouldn’t have standards and protect yourself but if a relationship has proved itself over time to be good and loyal don’t let those thoughts take over. If you start thinking that your partner needs to prove themselves to you or follow some formal behavior that is SATURN at work.

The truth is no one will ever find love safe because love needs vulnerability.

Is it worth the risk?

YES

I don’t think you should change who you are. I do think you should be aware of why patterns in your relationships repeat. The good side of hard Venus-Saturn aspects is that you are very capable of having high quality relationships that are long lasting and loyal.

I should also mention that often this can manifest in you choosing very irresponsible people who would eventually reject you or not want to commit. It is important to strike a balance between standards and an open heart.

Wrong person for a Venus-Saturn native: Irresponsible, childish, fearing commitment, lacking morals or goals.

If you find yourself choosing immature people who you need to treat like a parent or a boss this means you are trying to heal your own trauma and you still believe you are not good enough. Someone who can make you feel safe and you can rely on would help you make the best of this aspect.

I want to end this article by saying I don’t agree with Astrologers who say these aspects suggests you will always stay alone. It is true you can marry later in life or take time to do it. You may feel you need to wait or accomplish something in life first and that is okay. The important thing is to value yourself not for what you accomplish or only when other people say you are worthy.

YOU ARE WORTHY RIGHT NOW

Venus in Capricorn Revisited

A while ago I made a post about his Venus claiming it had bad taste. I do not take the fun out of that observation but clearly this does no justice to this placement or to understanding it.

I kept thinking back to this Venus in Capricorn, to the steady energy of people with this natal Venus. The way I like to consider Venus, is its relation to values and beauty in our lives. It is very much about how we express our love and joy to the world and what we consider worthy of our attention.

If you have Venus in Capricorn it means you have a highly developed love nature. That is because love for you is something to be earned. You were probably one of these kids who had to do something to receive affection- you had to perform in some way. In other words- love was hard work, not an easy flow you could just enjoy. As a result, as a grown up you have very high standards for what you need to do before you open yourself to love. This is also true about what you expect from others- they must go through gradual stages of effort to win your heart.

The key word is gradual, persistent and stable effort.  You can’t fully give or take warm sensuality, love or even friendship without these little efforts to lead you there.

You are very good at building a long-lasting relationship, and most of your connections are long lasting. At the same time you are just as good avoiding any connections if they are deemed unworthy to you.  If you feel the other person is not going to put in any effort or comply to the gradual steps in the relationship- you simply walk away, unattached. This might seem a bit cold to the outside perspective, but really it is your way to create love in life. You know you can’t have it any other way, and truthfully why should you?

The problem is, that at times it might be too easy to fall into a pattern of avoidance, of being single or staying a polite distance from others. Especially when young, Venus in Capricorn can avoid dating or serious relationships altogether. This is ironic considering they only want that type of relationship. They do have an inner ideal of a traditional, marriage or at the very least a long lasting partnership that is conventional enough. Take Miley Cyrus as an example- on and off again with one serious boyfriend she is now engaged to. After all the wild years she really wants that traditional marriage. This is true to Venus in Capricorn in that no matter how freedom loving the rest of the chart might seem- at some point they will simply want to settle down.

For you love is not a flashy thing, it is not made of huge promises or lavish luxuries. It is made out of small efforts, commitments and most importantly growth. Every relationship you have is about gradually getting better, stronger and more refined. You need to know that love is about climbing up somewhere towards a goal. This goal can be anything you decide but you must see it is moving to a higher point over time. If a relationship is good but it stays the same for years? You will feel you have failed somehow. This is unfortunate, as you might become cold towards a perfectly great partner. It is better you speak the goal out loud and find ways to work towards it together. Usually, it can be something small but it still means a lot to you.

Other than that, you are a warm lover who likes to take care of another person. You enjoy knowing you can put in efforts (work) to take your partner to their highest point. You are fine with being asked to do about anything- you will not shy away from any challenge. Unless, this is something you consider being a down grade.

For example, if the person you love asks for something you think is ugly, unworthy or simply will make them appear “lower” in some way. One man with Venus in Capricorn I knew, would  buy his girlfriend beautiful clothes, jewelry and perfume but when she asked for a pair of ripped jeans she liked- he would not but them- for him she will be downgrading her looks and he would not be party to that. This is of course one example, and his can play out on emotional levels. If she had a Venus in Capricorn she might simply avoid showing angry emotions in the relationship- instead choosing to walk out of the room. Again, this is really about keeping things classy.

Venus in Capricorn, is very particular about social norms, behaviors and appearances. Again we can go back to how they won over the adults in their lives- who gave them love when they acted polite, respectful or even like “little adults”. Parents to Venus in Capricorn should be aware of this and give their smart child some leeway to be wild, messy and silly.

Sexually speaking, Venus in Capricorn are very sensual (earth sign) they are not aggressive and they are very careful about what they do until they are sure if you like it. A lover who lets them go wild a bit is what they need- they need to lose control once in a while and to show their affection in a free fashion.

Now the pitfalls for you are many. To start with, you can as I said before become too focused on things you want and avoid deep relationships. You can also end up with someone who will manipulate you to work for them. I have many examples of this Venus being abused and staying for years- putting in more efforts the more the relationships fails. So you should avoid both extremes, of too much or too little.

A good partner for you is someone who enjoys being nurtured, who will make all the secret gentleness come out from under your controlled self. Who will make you want to touch and hug them, feed them and take care of their needs. This is someone who is not aggressive, who is sensitive and has sweetness about them, someone who enjoys and appreciates the small daily efforts and the larger vision of the relationship. Who has a good vision into the future and who doesn’t want huge romantic gestures taken from a movie set. You also need a partner with a head on their shoulders, who can think in a rational manner, avoid becoming too emotional and not irrupt into intense emotions.

This is basically someone with qualities that are a crossover of Cancer and Aquarius. So if you meet someone is both in need of what you can give but also not too dependent on you- you found a match.

Now, a bit on the gender differences of this Venus: If you are a Woman with Venus in Capricorn you give love the way this post describes. You put in effort, you act classy, and you take time with building the relationship to fit what you want. You are elegant and you don’t erupt with intense emotions. You know how to walk away with grace- unless you have worked so hard you will never walk away no matter how bad it gets.

If you are a man with Venus in Capricorn, you want an elegant, small boned partner who is hard working but also wise beyond their years. Who will take a more traditional role in in the relationship. You may not admit to it but you do want her to be a bit “crazy” on an emotional level and you do enjoy a sensitive partner who will allow you open up. You want a family, children and a nice house. And you want the house (metaphorical house) to get bigger every year.

Some other key points for this Venus:

Love has no price. You are worthy of love just as you are. You don’t need to way for what you want. It is okay not to have to ask for what you need. If someone doesn’t enjoy what you give- they never will and no amount of sweat is going to change that.

Saturn: The Dark Superhero

Up to this point, I avoided writing about Saturn. It wasn’t a thought out decision perhaps- but if was something I felt more comfortable with. Saturn is a very tricky planet to write about- not so much because it deals with the most difficult lessons in our life, but because it isn’t easy to pin down.  The reason for this is that fear in general, is not something we understand until we overcome it.  It is a basic accepted “fact” (starting with Freud) that until we know the reason for our fear we won’t be able to get rid of it. Saturn is also the grown up in out chart- it is the responsible adult that tells us we must work hard, play less and maybe then we might turn out good people.

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A strong Saturn is one that can indeed teach as much about life  even if he is not the one that makes things easy for us.  it usually isn’t  a pleasant experience,  when someone shows me their chart I make sure to study their Saturn first so I can understand where their pain and difficulty arises from. Saturn is ruled by both Aquarius and Capricorn- two signs that work hard to build institutions on this earth, erect governments and punish the criminals.

Saturn is a bit of a superhero really! A dark hero though he may be. He saves us from making the same mistakes again and again – like a wise elder that reminds us that fire is hot and we shouldn’t stick our little hands where they don’t belong.

Saturn isn’t mean- He is just knows so much he has not time for small talk and smiles. We usually feel our Saturn in our childhood- all the things we never chose, like our parents and teachers.  We may also feel Saturn in our relationship with society- when we feel alone in a room full of people- this is our hero in black, teaching us to be our own person. When we feel we don’t deserve love and that things are too hard to deal with- it’s him again.

Think about it: every person on this earth is born with some inner and outer restrictions that serve a purpose. It isn’t always obvious- for example a child born to a very rich family may face his restrictions as a result of that privilege. A small girl born with Saturn in the 6th house- will have to work like a grown up- becoming a child star.

Saturn also rules “time”- how so? As it rules things that last: long-term relationships as well as actual social constructs. It is very traditional at heart- not a liberal hero. It wants to use the past so it can build on top of it. This includes your past memories and things which serve as a base for who you are.  Things that last require work and commitment, like a marriage for example- if both parties are not ready to commit and are able to do things which they find hard- the marriage isn’t going to work.  Any long-term commitment requires sacrifice of the ego- making place for another person in your life. Isn’t that a good thing? Of course it is- if you understand that the commitment will lead to a real strong relationship. If you don’t understand that, then indeed Saturn may seem like an evil doer. The trick is to always see the goal ahead- not the path. Saturn wants you to know that you are going somewhere, building, creating and growing. Marriage is a great example for how Saturn works:

Marriage is a great example for how Saturn works: Two people meet and are attracted to each other. They have fun going on dates and having romantic moments and adventures together.  That time in the relationship is almost perfect- both think that the other person is perfect and more than that- perfect for them. They say they are in love and they feel it too. Then one day something happens- maybe one of them does something that hurts or bothers the other person and maybe they even fight, or maybe one of them loses their jobs or becomes ill- the Saturn domain. In happens in any relationship but chances are they both think it means something about that one specific relationship- the one that stops being all fun and games. It can be a painful discovery- suddenly your love is not the perfect person you thought. Instead, they are weak, flawed- they are human!   Suddenly the relationship isn’t perfect- you have to find a job, deal with the illness. Saturn at this point is your best compass- it will show you how to deal best with all the hard times and how to build a new and stronger foundation. If you manage the good times will return- they will not be perfect but they will be real and meaningful- they will be real love. A commitment and understanding- a marriage of souls.  Saturn is a very unromantic planet- but a romantic at heart for he can lead you to actually realize your dreams in the real world.

If you manage do learn Saturn’s moves in battle then the good times will return, they will not be perfect, but they will be real and meaningful- they will be real love. Saturn is a very unromantic planet- but a romantic at heart for he can lead you to actually realize your dreams in the real world.

He does protect you more than you know- from becoming less than you should be.

So face your fears- knowing they are just the path not the goal and that the end of your journey is beautiful. You will stand taller and stronger having overcome Saturn and having built something lasting.